I'd like to wish ALL of my Leadership Academy Class 11 friends a very HAPPY NEW YEAR and a joyous HOLIDAY SEASON...best of luck in 2012...looking forward to seeing you all in Mpls in July!!
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Joe, if you want to say it to ALL of the group, facebook isn't the way! :p
Happy New Year, to all of y'all! :)
PS - as far as I know there are only four people getting this email (mostly big angry-bird players if my memory serves) who aren't welcome to join the facebook group, but I completely understand why some of you choose not to...
Happy New Year, to all of y'all! :)
PS - as far as I know there are only four people getting this email (mostly big angry-bird players if my memory serves) who aren't welcome to join the facebook group, but I completely understand why some of you choose not to...
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Happy New Year Ryan and Joe!
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What's with your e-mail to LA11? What was that all about?
---I just noticed that you and Joe are Facebook friends. Why would you send that e-mail to everyone? Some people are not in the LA11 group because they wish to avoid the same type of controversy and petty crap that you seem to be trying to stir up with your e-mail. Those same things were happening with the google e-mail too. That's why many people do not respond to those e-mails either. These issues occurred many moths ago when a lot of things were heated within our group. Things are not that way now, but you chose to re-open this. Why? It's not necessary and it is most un-welcomed.
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You never answered my e-mail. What was up with that google group e-mail that you sent?
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So, I've asked you a couple different times about that e-mail and you haven't responded to any of them. I guess I have my answer that you were just trying to start shit. Hell, even if you were just drunk-e-mailing, it would be somewhat of an excuse. You won't even own up to that, so I guess I have to just go on the assumption that you were trying to start shit. It's too bad that you can't get beyond that trivial bullshit from 8 months ago. Move on, Ryan. The rest of us have. I wish you the best with the things going on your life. Be strong and take care.
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Actually, you've done what the old saying says happens when you make an assumption, ****...
The reason you haven't heard back from me is because I've been trying to follow Jimmy W's 48 hour rule. I'll go back one by one and answer your emails now
The reason you haven't heard back from me is because I've been trying to follow Jimmy W's 48 hour rule. I'll go back one by one and answer your emails now
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Joe, if you want to say it to ALL of the group, facebook isn't the way! Because not everyone is on facebook, not everyone will get a message sent to the facebook group. However, I felt confident, based on the the text of Joe's message [I'd like to wish ALL of my Leadership Academy Class 11 friends a very HAPPY NEW YEAR and a joyous HOLIDAY SEASON...best of luck in 2012...looking forward to seeing you all in Mpls in July!!] (CAPS emphasis in original, bold emphasis added), that he actually intended to send it to ALL 28 of his classmates. I have since confirmed my understanding with Joe. :p This is an emoticon meant to represent someone sticking their tongue out. Because subtlety, context, and emotion are harder to convey through text than more intimate forms of communication, such symbols have come into use to help make sure that things are read in the proper tone. In this case, I felt it was appropriate to convey to Joe that I was teasing him in a friendly way about not being super clear about how technology works and trying to help him be more effective in his communications in the future (by using the proper medium). I didn't want him to think I was forwarding it to make him feel dumb, nor did I want anyone to misinterpret his sending a message to facebook as his deliberate omission of some of the class.
Happy New Year, to all of y'all! This was my attempt to add my own New Year's well-wishes to Joe's. I don't know how I could have been more clear. :) An emoticon indicating happiness. Now that I'm breaking this 30-second email down after thinking about it off and on for 4 days straight, I must admit: this emoticon is redundant, weakens other emoticons in the work, and should have been omitted.
PS - as far as I know there are only four people getting this email (at this point I am getting a little ambiguous, but I figured most people would tend to jump right to one answer when asked, "Who are the four people on the LA11 google list are somehow different than the rest?") (mostly big angry-bird players if my memory serves) this parenthetical was meant to clarify the previously mentioned ambiguity. I definitely remember many people teasing the instructors about playing angry birds when not teaching, right? who aren't welcome to join the facebook group, but I completely understand why some of you choose not to... I myself have been off of facebook completely at various points, and was very late among my peers to get on in the first place. Privacy concerns and time-sucking concerns are just two that resonate with me the most. I was just trying to make clear that I don't hold it against anyone (or even question the motivations of anyone) who isn't on facebook.
Happy New Year, to all of y'all! This was my attempt to add my own New Year's well-wishes to Joe's. I don't know how I could have been more clear. :) An emoticon indicating happiness. Now that I'm breaking this 30-second email down after thinking about it off and on for 4 days straight, I must admit: this emoticon is redundant, weakens other emoticons in the work, and should have been omitted.
PS - as far as I know there are only four people getting this email (at this point I am getting a little ambiguous, but I figured most people would tend to jump right to one answer when asked, "Who are the four people on the LA11 google list are somehow different than the rest?") (mostly big angry-bird players if my memory serves) this parenthetical was meant to clarify the previously mentioned ambiguity. I definitely remember many people teasing the instructors about playing angry birds when not teaching, right? who aren't welcome to join the facebook group, but I completely understand why some of you choose not to... I myself have been off of facebook completely at various points, and was very late among my peers to get on in the first place. Privacy concerns and time-sucking concerns are just two that resonate with me the most. I was just trying to make clear that I don't hold it against anyone (or even question the motivations of anyone) who isn't on facebook.
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OK, I just sent two emails. If we could condense this conversation down to one medium (probably email is best?) I think that would be great...
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Go ahead and try to back peddle. I'm not the only one who thought your e-mail was out of line. As far as the "48 hour" rule is concerned; that's BS. All I asked in my original e-mail was "What's up with the google group e-mail?". There was nothing accusatory in that statement and therefore no need to take time to collect your thoughts or feelings. I find the explanation of your e-mail to be lame and condescending.
I don't want to discuss this anymore with you. I want to look back at the LA experience and think good things, not the petty things. Take care of yourself. I wish you the best.
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Go ahead and try to back peddle.
U seem inclined to disbelieve everything I say. So it seems useless to try to tell you I'm not backpeddling, even though it's true.
I'm not the only one who thought your e-mail was out of line.
I'm sorry to hear that.
As far as the "48 hour" rule is concerned; that's BS.
No, it's not - you've Assumed again (see below).
All I asked in my original e-mail was "What's up with the google group e-mail?". There was nothing accusatory in that statement and therefore no need to take time to collect your thoughts or feelings.
All of this is true, but only 41 minutes passed between that email and your next. In that time I was loading my vehicle with luggage and my children so that I could take them back to north dakota. Your first email only confused me, and I didn't have a chance to ask for clarification before I received your 2nd email, which I felt I should take some time to respond to.
I find the explanation of your e-mail to be lame and condescending.
I'm sorry you thought it was lame I thought it was rather clever. It was certainly condescending but only in a sarcastic way.
I don't want to discuss this anymore with you.
I don't want to discuss this anymore with you.
I've never understood anyone who thought they had the right to unilaterally declare a discussion over, and also claimed the last word. Especially a last word in such an inflammatory tone. Whether or not you want me to say something will hardly ever influence whether or not I say it.
I want to look back at the LA experience and think good things, not the petty things.
Yet look at all you infer from my simple sincere email...
Take care of yourself. I wish you the best.
Samesies...
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Ryan, my statement about not wanting to continue this was not meant as a brush off. I merely meant that both of us have better and more meaningful things to be doing than going back and forth over something this trivial. I have always enjoyed our conversations and I honestly do wish you the best.
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